Euro Hibs
GOOD JOB! You can run around mid and alb with 80+ vs 40 and take keeps. Do both albs and mids a favor and get some skill. Overwhelming numbers is not skill. Jumping back and forth between realms when Hero logs on is not skill. Sad, just plain sad. Please learn to RVR and no PVE. Don't you get bored doing the same thing every single day? Let's see. 1. Hero logs on 2. mid/alb bonuses suddenly jump to a minimum of 40% 3. hib zerg takes KM. 4 HIb zergs pves mid 5 hib zerg pves
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Welcome to what its like in hib at us prime time
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That's right, leading. Maybe you should start leading instead of griping about it?
Everyone is willing to complain about stuff but never do their part to correct it.
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This is true. People follow Hero because he has lead for years. I came back to the game in 2013 after about a 9 year break. I met Hero and enjoyed playing with him and other EU hibs. I made a lot of friends with good people in Hibernia. I ended up being invited into all different types of groups as Hibernia during EU primetime is for the most part an incredibly friendly atmosphere. There isn't any yelling or putting down of others. Hibs win some fights and lose some but they keep coming back because they (like most in this game) want action. Albs and Mids during EU primetime for the most part won't roam even when they have numbers. There may be different reasons for this, either lack of leadership or not wanting to engage in openfield battles so many will just port in to keeps when they are on fire to defend as that is the only way for Hibs during EU primetime to find anyone to fight. I personally prefer openfield fights but it's hard to get Albs and Mids to leave keeps.
Damn.
you mean albs and mids don't chain die to hib stun / nuke / nuke ?
damn.
the number of ST's at the moment is just ... no fun.
Half of his numbers are from Mid and Alb, so it seems you have some really talented eu-albs over there.
Too bad that the account-name isn`t displayed like in Eso....
Reading this hurts my eyes as it cant be farther away from truth as the edge of the universe.
If Heros BG gets rolled by Annamariede BG he usually logs one hour earlier than usual, if not more and after that the numbers in Annas BG skyrocket so much, that people in that BG tell the winning team joiners to log back to their hibs as they are not wanted in Mid BG anymore. Sometimes you can see jumps from 70 to 100-120 people within 10 minutes after Hero logs.
To get this straight... i like when Hero runs at EU prime time (i.e. starting from 8 p.m. german time) as there are some good fights against him, but that what you stated is simply not true as was proven over and over again.
Second thing: i dislike the way both fight, avoiding each other if numbers don't match or trying to steamrolling the other BG if numbers of own BG are far higher than the other BG (or even worse, running behind 8mans/smallmans/solos over half of the map) instead of trying some new things as often suggested in the BG. Esp. Anna likes to ignore most proposals if they don't fit his playstyle.
But... let's be honest... if it wasn't for Anna or Hero, EU primetime would be dead already.
Join hib at US prime-time and you'll get the same that you get at EU prime-time with Mid and Alb.
I hope you can seek medical attention for your eyes as soon as possible if they are hurting from your opinion. Your health is important. Never neglect it.
We also don't hide in keeps with lower numbers. Hib BG will be up at 7 PM CST tonight!
Edit: words are hard.
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It's interesting that you feel so passionate about this topic but yet follow around a BG leader that participates in what you feel is the exact problem. I'm sure, in the interest of fairness you've brought this matter to his attention since, as a BG leader, he would be in a position to have some kind of effect on the matter you feel so passionate about.
Is it the norm that Hib players parents are siblings?
You came into this topic with your comment "Reading this hurts my eyes as it cant be farther away from truth as the edge of the universe" and I replied you should get that checked out. You stated "If Heros BG gets rolled by Annamariede BG he usually logs one hour earlier than usual." I've played with Hero since 2013 and have been a part of almost every single EU bg primetime fights vs Annamariede since then consisting of mon/wed/thursday.
I will admit that Hero has sometimes logged early as you said but for various reasons. Hero will sometimes log early if Annamariede has much greater numbers which happens (Hibs having 40-55% population rp bonus) but he still goes out and attempts 2-4 openfield fights and then goes to a defensive position (i.e. towers/keeps) before he logs. Hero will also sometimes log early if Annamariede doesn't come out to fight even with similar numbers or greater as Anna will just run around planting traps and waiting (in a tower or pass) for Hibs to run over them. Annamariede has run away from the hib bg on inc multiple times especially recently as he wants Hibs to run over traps before hitting. It gets tiresome chasing an enemy bg who won't fight. What's the point of staying logged in when an enemy bg who has similar or even greater numbers won't fight?
So yes, Hero has sometimes logged early but it's not as much as you make it out to be. I'm not here to speak for Hero but I will defend him as I do consider him a friend and you came here stating "he usually logs early due to losing." You are saying that hibs won't fight but more often than not Hibs have a 10-25% population bonus on mon/wed/thurs EU Primetime and they still go out to fight win or lose.
In your first comment you called me a liar by stating what I said to be untrue as your eyes were hurting from reading what I wrote. Then in your second reply you also stated, "To get this straight... i like when Hero runs at EU prime time (i.e. starting from 8 p.m. german time) as there are some good fights against him, but that what you stated is simply not true as was proven over and over again" which again you are calling me a liar. I'm telling you my experience having been a part of the EU Hib Primetime bg for years and anyone who knows me knows that I believe in honesty and integrity. You are trying to pass off your version of what you experienced as fact but I ask you, how many times have you been a part of the Hib EU primetime bg when hero logs early? Do you honestly know from first hand experience the real reason for Hero logging early on Mon/Wed/Thurs bg days every single time to state it's been proven as fact that it's "usually due to losing?" I don't believe you do but again that's my opinion.
You can reply to this if you want, but so far your replies have been calling me a liar twice and accusing my parents of being inbred.
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Population bonus doesn't mean a thing. Lot of times Mids don't have a bonus, but the BG is still a lot smaller than the Hib BG. Simple as that.
Sometimes the numbers count in the Mid BG is high, but at least half the groups in the BG are somewhere else than with the BG, which renders the BG inoperable on open field due to lesser numbers in an actual encounter.
And believe me... the groups being in the BG, but not with the BG get called out for that.
Tbh... this is no lone specialty of Anna. And again... believe me when I say that Anna is openly called a wimp in the BG for this behavior, retreating from fights when not needed, avoiding even numbers et. al.
He (Anna that is) does that, and I call this behavior bullshit as it's not fun for most of the BG. First time doing that, ok. Maybe to force a tactic adjustment (hahaha... made a joke, Anna has no true tactics tbh), but starting with 2nd and 3rd time doing that people start leaving the BG which makes Anna constantly complain about having lesser numbers and why people in the BG are not with the BG.
Not me alone, but several others tell him the reason openly in /bc why people are leaving, but just like Hero it looks like Anna is not being able to adapt to different situations. Lots of people tell him that loosing a fight is better than not fight at all (even on keeps, you don't want to know how many times people set siege equipment just being told to leave one minute after, which is really disgusting, I stopped bringing siege just because of that).
In addition, both Annas and Heros behavior or tactics (if you can even call these things tactics) are highly predictable. You can bet money on Hero attacking Glen after getting Bledmeer or Boldiam after Beno. Odds are low if you bet against that. On the other side you can bet money on Anna to set traps in Alb banana or safe path or beside the bridge or inner keep whatever. You will not get much money in return for this bet. Maybe the current patch will change that as keep mechanics changed a bit, but only time will tell.
Again... in the last 2-3 months, whenever Hero lost 2-3 fights in a row he logged early. People are making fun of this in the Mid BG by telling Anna to spend him a victory in next fight to prevent him logging early. But I also said that I would like to see him staying online, because when he logs there is nothing to fight at all at EU primetime. Having Hero online, even with his flaws in tactics (and Anna is no different), is better than no enemy at all.
As said earlier... Pop bonus doesn't matter at all when it comes to participation in BG.
If all Hibs online at that time of the day consistently run with hero, but only half the people in RvR in Midgard run with Anna, then Hibs have an undeniable advantage in numbers when both BGs clash. Have also seen that in the past few months more and more as total population numbers plummeted. Hibs constantly having 20-40% bonus, but outnumbering Annas BG (i.e. the people actually with Anna at that time) quite regularly (there are exceptions ofc).
Then get out of your filter bubble and play some days in Mid BG. I did in the past in Hib with my Champ and Vamp, but couldn't stand the sights of so many elves, luris, Firbolgs or sylvans.
Plus it wasn't really different than Annas BG tbh. Hero doing his thing, Anna doing his thing, both not really able to adapt to different situations and doing the same predictable stuff over and over again (Hero with keeps, Anna with trapping every possible path over and over again et. al.).
Not a liar, but not telling the truth either.
And my sincerest apologies for the last thing.
I can remember the mids logging after they wiped 3 times because Xyorman got mad
That's true but he doesn't do it every time to be fair
Xyorman is not Anna and in addition a totally different time of the day. I guess most EU players aren't even online anymore when Xyorman starts his BG.
We had a great fight against the Anna Zerg yesterday at eras and we had no organised Zerg we lost the fight but we made good rps and had a lot of fun.
I was on Mid side at Eras and indeed, it was a lot of fun. Not because we won, but because it lasted some time and until the last few minutes of that fight it actually looked like that both sides could win the battle (at least from my point of view, which most of the time was laying on the ground of Erasleigh :P). Too bad Hero logged so early (for whatever reason <cough>), guess it could've been a real good 3-way fight at the keep (that one hibgroup doesn't count imho).
That was a ton of fun Brut. That battle went back and forth and it was a really well fought. Those are the rvr fights that make this 17 year old game a lot of fun. Not so much running thru each other but those classic keep battles.
Just saying that Hero isn't the only zerg leader that does it in this game.
The reasons maybe zerg leaders do it is 1) They don't have enough players 2) Zerg leader doesn't like dying and finds stats more important than fighting 3) Players mentality of quitting after 1 wipe and runs over to the other realm to get better realm points.
This is allowed by realm hopping and ever since it was introduced it's created a bee hive of realm hoppers!
Not saying i defend Hero's tactics in RvR but a lot is to do with players as well as the zerg leader.
Everyone does this in both 8man and Zerg playstyles - you see it happening around the clock, not just limited to EU PT.
It is an advanced tactic/strategy of starving the perceived stronger enemy of action - its a rather selfish act really.
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